Monday, May 11, 2009

THE NAZI UFO LIE by Anthony Bragalia


A very disturbing theme recurs from time to time in the UFO literature. Some maintain that Nazi scientists had perfected advanced aerial craft including "flying saucers" - both in Germany during WWII and as captured "Paperclip" scientists in the US. This supposed Nazi technology is seen by these "researchers" as the genesis of early man-made UFOs. Even now it is seen by some as the reason for today's state-of-the-art "Dreamland" flying machines- or even as the true cause of the Roswell crash!

This lie has been repeated in many books and magazines from the very beginning of the UFO phenomena. It continues even now with the publication of material from authors such as Martin Cannon, Nick Redfern, Nick Cook, William Lyne, Michael Heiser, Mark Ian Birdsall, Joseph Farrell and David Hatcher Childress.

The belief that secret Nazi UFO technologies existed during WWII -and that the US took these technologies to develop further- is as unsettling as it is untrue. "Nazi UFOs" have been proposed by some on numerous websites and in such books as "The Facade," "Pentagon Space Aliens," "The Hunt for Zero Point," "Man-Made UFOs" and "Hitler's Flying Saucers." They elevate Nazi scientific know-how to a level that it does not deserve.


I believe that I have found the "original impetus" for such nonsense...


Incredibly, in 1947 (the very year of the beginning of the modern UFO era) a fictional book entitled Rocket Ship Galileo authored by German-American Robert A. Heinlein, unquestionably "set the stage" for all future books and theories about Nazi saucers.

In this sci-fi novel, three teenagers work with their uncle, a "Dr. Cargraves," to construct a spaceship to go to the moon. The boys land on the Moon only to discover that the Nazis have already arrived! When the teens locate a secret Nazi lunar base, they discover wonderous technology. The boys and their uncle somehow overcome the Nazis and pilot the Nazi spaceship (which was of course was more advanced than the one developed by the American teens and their uncle) back to Earth. Every element of Nazi and Operation Paperclip saucer myth is set forth in this book. The idea that the Nazis had perfected advanced craft -and that we retrieved this technology- is a featured theme in the novel. It is one that is repeated to this very day.

The first known mention of the Nazi-UFO connection presented as non-fiction appeared in a March 30, 1950 article in the German tabloid, Der Spiegel. It continued with a series of 1950s "Police Gazette" neo-Nazi stories. In the 1960s strange books by authors such as Renato Vesco and "Michael X. Barton" -with titles like "The German Saucer Story" - made their way on book shelves.The idea that somewhere, someone is continuing the line of secret black projects the Nazis had initiated- is at the crux of these books and theories. Some of these theories are frightening in that they point to the supposed "reality" of a surviving "Third Power" of former Nazis.

Frauds such as "contactee" George Adamski put forth the concept of aliens of distinctly "Aryan" stock. Idealized as tall, blonde and blue-eyed, these aliens were human and possessed advanced technological wonders. The obvious connection between the idea of German-like superiority and Flying Saucers was again emblazoned upon the public psyche. In his book Messengers of Deception, author Jacques Vallee noted the connections between early contactees (such as George Hunt Williamson) and American Nazism. Such "German influence" is seen even today with reports of interactions with "Nordic" aliens.

Less troubling (but finding its origin from the same cesspool) is the notion that captured German scientists collaborated with US scientists to test-fly advanced or novel "gliders" and "balloon craft" at our bases in New Mexico. It is said that such aerial black experiments -designed by Germans and using captured Japanese or even deformed children- accounts for the crash at Roswell. Books such as Nick Redfern's "Body Snatchers in the Desert" promote this idea.

World War II is an historical period that has received more attention than any other. The focus of what happened has always been on the German's- their reprehensible experiments and their inhumane ways. But the history of Nazi Saucers just does not exist in mainstream history. Rather, such ideas rely on claims without proof, extreme right-wingers and on the profit motives of unscrupulous writers and publishers of the sensational.

From the beginning people speculated about the origin of the unidentified objects flying in our skies. In 1950, it perhaps made sense to consider that the technological achievements of the Nazis may have included the development of such saucers- but it makes no sense in 2009.

When carefully examined, we find that "Nazi UFOs" simply never existed. Every photograph presented on websites and books of such craft are faked with models, photoshops or artistic renderings. Others are misidentified, prosaic objects. And in every case where a German "saucer scientist" is identified- we find that the "scientist" did not exist- or was a false claimant.


When we look at the people who promote such theories- we find that their beliefs are rooted in one of two reasons:

1) Anti-semitism or pro-Nazi sympathies; or just the opposite-
2) A continued hatred and fear of the evil experiments conducted by Nazis in remote locations

Those who are motivated by the first reason promote fantasies such as an "escaped Hitler" residing in Antartica and building Flying Saucers- or even that ET itself teamed with the Reich on how to construct such craft. Other, more occult fantasies (relating often to the "Thule Society" or the "Black Sun" group) associate Nazis with rituals and rites that led them to contact with mysterious "dark powers" that directed them on how to construct advanced aerials.

Those motivated by the second reason promote the fantasies of continued flight experiments on US soil by captured Nazi scientists of unusual or advanced aircraft using unwitting or unwilling passengers. In both cases though, there is a certain "elevation" of Nazi achievement over our own capabilities. But it is an advantage that simply never existed. Fake photos, fraudulent science, and lying or misguided witnesses and authors are at the heart of such beliefs:



Famous rendition of a Nazi UFO is the "Schauberger" UFO. It is in reality a Water Turbine.


"The Bell" or "Die Glocke" is promoted by British aviation writer Nick Cook as a test rig for Nazi anti-gravity saucers. It is actually the frame for a Cooling Tower! Wider shot photos reveal a conventional power plant nearby.


One example of several (usually blurry) "artistic renderings" or photoshops depicting supposed Nazi saucers


German scientists who engineered such Nazi saucer craft (with names like Meithe, Schauberger, Schriever and Habermohl) fail utterly to check out. They either never existed or they were not the engineering technologists that they claimed to be, but simply theorist "wannabes."

Others who were real engineers, such as the German "Horten Brothers," are implicated by some as having developed strange "flying wings." In actuality, the US had possessed at the time far superior designs than the Hortens for all-wing, wingless, delta-wing and wedge-craft aerial vehicles.

One of the brothers wrote to the president of Northrop Aircraft in the late 1940s asking if he could come to work for them. He was rebuffed because Horten had nothing to offer that we didn't already have. Historical documents show that both Northrop and the US military thought the Hortons "odd" and off-base when it came to things that fly. Even Russia ignored them.



Author Nick Redfern carries this myth-torch today. Initially Mr. Redfern's thesis seems compelling- it even did to me. Closer examination though reveals huge flaws. In his book Body Snatchers in the Desert (and on his blogs) Mr. Redfern perpetuates the idea that German scientists (captured by us after WWII during Operation Paperclip) continued their heinous human experiments. This time though, it is in the form of sickening, secret test flights under the direction of US government personnel at New Mexico bases and national labs. Mr. Redfern maintains that this is the likely cause of the Roswell crash.

In Mr. Redfern's world, even after the war -and on US soil- the evil Nazis continued to toil on strange craft and to conduct heinous human experimentation in remote locations. The "fear of Nazis" meme is continued- even after the Reich was conquered and the war criminals were captured. And this meme sounds suspiciously like others that tell of "continued Nazi activity," but instead in other remote locations like Antartica.

Mr. Redfern's book's subtitle is very telling- "The Horrible Truth at the Heart of the Roswell Story." It reflects the continuing fear that our government experiments with its citizens. Of course, our government had indeed conducted -and now admitted to- horrible radiation tests, tests using LSD, tests on the retarded and worse. But Mr. Redfern goes one further by adding a "captured Nazi engineers" twist. He cobbles together a speculative scenario that attempts to show an unholy collusion between Paperclip scientists and US scientists.

Like similar authors before him, Redfern has yet to produce even a single official document or genuine photo to make such a direct connection. Instead -like similar authors before him- he props his thesis with information from discredited researchers like Timothy Cooper, faked film like the Alien Autopsy and anonymous testimony from people that he did not discover, but who approached him- people like "Mr. Levine, "The Colonel" and "The Black Widow."

He identifies by name only a couple of (third-hand) sources, William "Bill" Slater of the US Psychology Strategy Board in the early 1950s, and Alan "Al" Barker, formerly with the US Army Psychological Warfare Center, also during the early 1950s. We have yet to be offered proof of their existence and military station. Even years since the book's publication- they have curiously failed to come forward (or, to my knowledge- to be talked to by anyone at all other than Mr. Redfern.) This itself is damning to his theory. Whenever I discover a potentially valuable "witness" to Roswell or the UFO phenomena, I most always contact another researcher so that he or she can confirm my reporting.

Mr. Redfern believes that small, diseased or deformed Japanese from the notorius Unit 731 were brought to America by the US military to continue biological and flight experimentation on them. As an insightful Amazon reviewer wrote of Redfern's tome, Nick "reveals his confusion regarding the differences between Japanese people and alien bodies. Surely after five years of fighting the Japanese, any witness would know the difference between a physically handicapped Japanese person and an extraterrestrial."

Mr. Redfern does not seem to understand the history of flight. Well-conditioned, normal-sized adult men were used to test flight extremes. Using diseased or deformed midgets or those with otherwise compromised constitutions makes no sense- and would provide meaningless data. These are simply not the types of people that would be used because the results of their flights would not provide the kind of information relevant to healthy, real-world pilots or passengers.

Recently on his blog Mr. Redfern has been reduced to citing the writings of one "Kathy Kasten" to support his thesis. Ms. Kasten maintains that she was literally "guided by voices in her head" to find proof that Roswell was a secret terrestrial experiment. Kathy also believes that she was "irradiated" by the CIA and her by own father. Though her writings today on the subject are less delusional, she continues to relate false histories on the subject in publications such as the appropriately named Paranoia magazine, which Mr. Redfern recommends reading.

Mr. Redfern's deformed version of the Paperclip program ignores that the operation's noble aim was to grab the best German researchers -like Werner Von Braun- to use for what the Germans were really good at- Rocketry. This led to the Apollo programs and moon landings. These misleading "revisionist" assertations on aeronautics find their roots in good ole' rockets!


The Roswell crash -and the UFO phenomena- have nothing whatsoever to do with German innovation or experimentation. Instead, they represent a technology designed not by Nazis -or even by Mankind. The truth is that they speak to a science so advanced that it is altogether Unearthly.


RRRGroup said...

Nick Redfern responds:


Interesting post. I will comment with respect to those areas that relate to my Body Snatchers in the Desert book.

You state: "Redfern has yet to produce even a single official document or genuine photo to make such a direct connection."

That's true. But, in the same vein, not a "single official document or genuine photo" has ever surfaced that confirms aliens crashed at Roswell.

So, if this issue is problematic re the data related to me, it has to be considered problematic re the ET angle too - and also for Mogul, the crash test dummies, and everything else.

Yes, it's quite true (and I have never denied) that the people I spoke with approached me, rather than the other way around.

I can't say for certain that they have "never" come forward (before or since my book was published) to speak with anyone aside from me.

However, I can say for certain that aspects of the story in my book were told to other researchers and publications before me, or before my book was published.

Indeed, if there had *never* been an occasion when aspects of the story had surfaced before, I would have been highly suspicious. But aspects of the story *have* surfaced before.

As I'm sure you know, Popular Mechanics magazine stated it was told in 1997 of a then-forthcoming release of documents that would tell of the Japanese angle for Roswell.

Could PM's info have come from anyone I spoke with? Yes, certainly it could have.

Keith Basterfield (a now-retired Australian researcher) openly told me that he had been given the same story as me - but around 6 months BEFORE Body Snatchers was even published (which would have put the account told to him in around December 2004).

And the scenario was the same: high-altitude balloon flights, handicapped people etc.

Also: as you may know, I have never denied (and you can find my posts on the following in the archive sections at UFO Updates) I could have been deceived and blatantly lied to.

I don't *think* I was lied to. But can I ever deny that as a possibility. Nope, not at all.

For example, in one of the UFO Updates posts, I cited one incident where I was able to see the credit card (on a restaurant table) of one of the interviewees.

I said (and today still say) this could either be evidence that his name was real, or that it was a fake, but placed on the table in a deliberate position where it was easy for me to see it.

You also state: "Whenever I discover a potentially valuable 'witness' to Roswell or the UFO phenomena, I most always contact another researcher so that he or she can confirm my reporting."

And there's nothing wrong with that. But all it means really is that you and me follow a different approach of research.

Bear in mind that the nature of the interviews (again, much of the following is highly abbreviated but can be found at UFO Updates) was very much cloak-and-dagger, in restaurants, and under their terms and specifications - not mine.

Plus, given the controversial nature of the accounts they were relating, my view was that putting the data out there (or sharing it) before I felt I had gone just about as far as a I could with it, would be premature.

I think it's incorrect to say I have been "reduced" to citing Kathy Kasten's writings.

The reality is that I have a blog that details the latest data that may be relevant to my book.

In her latest writing, Kathy dug deep into the history of the New Mexico-based Fort Stanton, and which she discusses re the "bodies" angle.

So, rather than being "reduced" to referring to Kathy's writings, I cited it because it had relevance to the book.

Indeed, when I have posted this comment, I will be doing a post at my Body Snatchers blog on your post right here - because it's relevant to the book.

So, if *anyone* posts anything that is relevant to the book, I will (providing I see it, of course) post it at my blog, via a link.

But I don't interpret that as being "reduced" to posting things from whoever. Rather, I'm just covering all the commentaries/info.

There is also the new data that is published in my chapter on "post-Body Snatchers" in the new volume (3) of Greg Taylor's "Darklore.

The "Darklore" chapter includes FOIA files I have uncovered on the death of a young boy in Lincoln County, NM (home to the Foster Ranch, of course).

The boy was bitten by a rat, and taken to nearby Fort Stanton (where, interestingly Japanese people were held in WW2).

His condition deteriorated and he died. A large file on the case was opened by the FBI that was titled "Plague."

The file on the boy's death was shared with none other than (a) the Director of Naval Intelligence; (b) the Air Force’s Director of Special Investigations; (c) the Director of the CIA; and (d) the Acting Director of the Division of Security of the Atomic Energy Commission.

Additional, early-to-mid 1950s FBI documentation declassified at an official level reveals retrospective suspicions that the outbreak in the late 40s in Lincoln County (and the boy's death) may have been due to the Hantavirus, which was first recognised by Western medicine during the Korean War in the early 1950s.

More notable is the fact that a discussion took place in 1950 between elements of the FBI and biological warfare experts at Camp Detrick [renamed Fort Detrick in 1956], Maryland to determine if, during the Second World War, none other than Japan’s Unit 731 was working on biological warfare programmes that could have been "delivered by balloon" in…yes, you guessed it right…Lincoln County, New Mexico, and which could have led to the "plague" that killed the boy.

I don't claim to have all the answers; but for official FOIA documents to surface 4 years after my book was published, and that posit a link between Unit 731 and activity at "Roswell Central" (namely Lincoln County) suggests to me that somewhere within the murky mess known as Roswell there is some form of Japanese connection - and a somewhat dark connection, too.


RRRGroup said...

Nick Redfern clarifies further...

There is one other aspect of my "Body Snatchers" book that is worth commenting on re the whole "Nazi Saucer" angle - namely, that although my sources asserted that such craft existed, they were nothing like the type of things depicted in a lot of other "Nazi UFO" books.

For example, in my book, I state the following concerning the testimony of Al Barker:

"In mid-1947, according to Barker, White Sands test flew three unusual-looking aircraft: one of these was of an almost classic flying saucer design that was recovered in a semi-constructed state from a German weapons factory in 1945; and two were prototype vehicles built in the United States that Barker, too, perceptively, describes as “half-moon” in shape or “like a shoe heel bent out of shape,” and that were based upon the designs of the Horten brothers of Germany."

I then quote Barker stating the following:

"Now, if you hear that we were flying fantastic machines at speeds of thousands of miles an hour that the Nazis had designed, you’re wrong. That’s not true at all. These were saucer-like but more like an ellipse and they certainly did not fly around the States at thousands of miles an hour. Hell, you think we would be building bombers and missiles if we had that technology? But, sure, we had a few tests of these aircraft and several crashes, aborted take-offs, failed landings. We just could not get these things stable."

In other words, Barker states that there were a couple of tests of German craft, but all were pretty much useless and unstable.

And (also as per the above-quote) Barker openly derides the idea that the US had acquired Nazi Saucer teshnology that could fly at fantastic speeds etc.

Unlike nearly all Nazi saucer books in print, my sources actually suggest the Nazi legends were massively distorted - and the vehicles were pretty much useless.

Another source states re the Japanese experimentation angle:

"You have got to realize this is early days – nearly sixty years ago – and a lot of this was people not really knowing what the hell they were doing and just coming up with dip-shit ideas and hoping for the best."

Once again, this is not evidence of some high-tech op, but of experiments that ultimately were shown to be of little worth at all.

Indeed, everyone I spoke with was unanimous that the Japanese experiments were of no scientific worth (again stressing the "dipshit" angle), and everything was destroyed.

So, in conclusion, none of this is indicative of some sort of op to suggesting the existence of some super-advanced Nazi Saucer superiority.

Rather, the scenario given to me is of a series of pretty sordid failures: hardly what the pro-Nazi Saucer champions want to hear and spread.

Anonymous said...

Great post. Another element of this story is the occult side. The Vril Society, Hitlers search for 'ancient technology' etc. The myth is so rich, but their seems to be no evidence at all as you have pointed out. I would like to know the origin of all of the blurry nazi ufo photos. They are pass off as real, so were these generated to further this myth?